{"id":5056,"date":"2009-10-18T22:17:26","date_gmt":"2009-10-18T21:17:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/noexpert.co.uk\/?p=5056"},"modified":"2021-10-31T18:40:09","modified_gmt":"2021-10-31T18:40:09","slug":"harveys-fish-market-oyster-bar-restaurant-still-not-the-plaice-to-go","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/?p=5056","title":{"rendered":"Harveys Fish Market, Oyster Bar &#038; Restaurant &#8211; still not the plaice to go!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a title=\"Harveys of Ramsgate\" href=\"http:\/\/www.harveysoframsgate.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Harveys of Ramsgate<\/a> now has an AA Rosette and a change of chef (or so we were told).\u00a0 We thought we would give it a second chance, and see if our opinion of it differs now from <a title=\"Harveys - not the plaice to go\" href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/?p=1463\" target=\"_self\">our last rather damming post<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_5159\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5159\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMG_41051.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-5159\" title=\"IMG_4105[1]\" src=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMG_41051-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_4105[1]\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMG_41051-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMG_41051-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMG_41051.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 85vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5159\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Harveys Fish Market, Oyster Bar &amp; Restaurant<\/figcaption><\/figure>We ordered the fixed price &#8216;grazing menu&#8217;, (which had a very limited fish selection)\u00a0 2 courses for \u00a312 (this certainly sounded like a bargain),\u00a0 and a couple of glasses of pretty good wine. We also ordered a portion of their own baked bread which was okay. The starters arrived. Things were looking up as the presentation appeared to be not too bad. My salmon and beetroot with micro greens actually had flavour. Unbalanced but flavour none the less. My companion went for the butternut squash risotto. It also looked good but turned out to be completely lacking in flavour, basically just stodge &#8230;.oh dear as we were ready to amend our opinion and eat humble pie.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2482.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-5192\" title=\"IMGP2482\" src=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2482-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"IMGP2482\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2482-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2482-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 85vw, 500px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2481.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-5191\" title=\"IMGP2481\" src=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2481-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"IMGP2481\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2481-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2481-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 85vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>My main course arrived. Apparently this was a &#8216;belly of pork&#8217;. Well it was like no cut of meat I had ever seen. It looked more like a cross section of spinal column (more cartilage than belly!). Only one word came to mind during this course and that I&#8217;m afraid was &#8216;Repulsive&#8217;.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_5187\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5187\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2484.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-5187\" title=\"IMGP2484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2484-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Belly of Pork!\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2484-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2484-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 85vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5187\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Belly of Pork!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>My companions Plaice looked like it had been bitten by a Shark!. It was also over cooked.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_5188\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5188\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2483.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-5188\" title=\"IMGP2483\" src=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2483-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Plaice and Potato salad\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2483-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2483-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 85vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5188\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Plaice and Potato salad<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>When asked if we wanted dessert or coffee we decided to pass and left the restaurant as hungry as we went in.<\/p>\n<p>Instead we had pancakes at <a title=\"Miles Cafe Culture\" href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/?p=304\" target=\"_self\">Miles Cafe Culture<\/a> &#8211; a genuinely buzzy and quality establishment.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_5189\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5189\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2486.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-5189\" title=\"IMGP2486\" src=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2486-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Pancakes at Miles\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2486-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/IMGP2486-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 85vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5189\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pancakes at Miles Cafe Culture<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Our visit to Harveys was on a Saturday at lunchtime, only two other tables were occupied, so for ambience we had some background music and a baby crying in the corner. We were also a bit surprised that the fish slab was not\u00a0 in use, to let us see what fresh fish was on offer.<\/p>\n<p>We passed by again in the evening, on the way to <a title=\"Age &amp; Sons\" href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/?p=5055\" target=\"_self\">Age &amp; Sons<\/a>, and noticed that the restaurant was barely half full. Which was interesting when compared to the completely full Age &amp; Sons, which attracts exactly the type of clientel that Harveys are trying to target.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">How the AA could award Harveys with &#8220;The only AA Rosette in Thanet&#8221; is beyond me. There are more deserving restaurants in Thanet, such as Age &amp; Sons. It was also disconcerting to read the description of Harveys in toptable, it used words like &#8220;steller seafood&#8221; and intimated that Celebrity Chef John Burton Race was involved in the cooking. I am pretty sure he is not.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">After two visits now, our conclusion was that Harveys would be an ideal candidate for another Celebrity Chefs TV show &#8211; <a title=\"Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares\" href=\"http:\/\/www.channel4.com\/food\/on-tv\/ramsays-kitchen-nightmares\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ramsay&#8217;s Kitchen Nightmares<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">It&#8217;s great that so much money has been invested in Ramsgate, which does really need a good fish restaurant. We just don&#8217;t feel the investment has \u00a0been made in the kitchen where it really counts. It&#8217;s also good to know we are not alone in our views, as I have spotted a couple of reviews now that use words like &#8220;Dire&#8221; to describe the food in Harveys. So unless there are some major changes here, Harveys can relax as we won&#8217;t be\u00a0reviewing them again.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">UPDATE &#8211; November 2009 : Just read <a title=\"Jay Rayner - Observer Review\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/lifeandstyle\/2009\/nov\/22\/jay-rayner-harveys-ramsgate-kent\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jay Rayners recent review for the Observer<\/a>, spot on. He was also brave enough to try the Oysters!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">UPDATE &#8211; July 2010 : See picture below, this is amazing. It looks like they are actually using the negative review in The Observer to market the restaurant.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/tn_IMAG0143.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-10603\" title=\"tn_IMAG0143\" src=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/tn_IMAG0143-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"747\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/tn_IMAG0143-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/tn_IMAG0143.jpg 685w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 85vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>UPDATE &#8211; October 2010 : About time!\u00a0 Harveys is finally closed &#8211; RIP please! For more information see post from <a title=\"Isle One\" href=\"http:\/\/isleone.co.uk\/gone-for-a-burton\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Isle One<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Top page - Noexpert.co.uk\" href=\"https:\/\/www.noexpert.co.uk\/food\">Return to top page<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Harveys of Ramsgate now has an AA Rosette and a change of chef (or so we were told).\u00a0 We thought we would give it a second chance, and see if our opinion of it differs now from our last rather damming post. 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